Baren Digest               Tuesday, 18 March 2003       Volume 22 : Number 2162


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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:59:53 -0500
To: Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Latin help

The phrase your friend suggested, "natus sine mentum", is also another
translation of the phrase you wanted. Natus means to be born, sine means
without, and mentum means chin.
I looked in my dictionary, however, and found out that natus is a form of
nascor. Nascor is a verb and natus is used as a noun. So they both pretty
much mean the same.  Now I can't quite remember where the heck I got the
word nasci..... Looking at my dictionary and trying to translate the
abbreviations and terms, I'm sure that nasci and nascor are the same word
but in different tenses.  Now looking at my second phrase I'm not too sure
that its correct!! I found the meaning of foris and it means out of doors!
But I know sine means without.
I had a year off of Latin so I don't remember alot of things but there are
some  things that still stick.  Luckily I'll be taking Latin in high school
and learn all this over again!!

Meagan~ 





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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:06:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21039] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2161 

Thanks for info on spacers for framing.  Here in the baja we are limited and 
must find ways to use things on hand, it does make doing art more creative!  
Let us be mature adults and agree to disagree on points of view and still 
remain loving fellow artists.  I agree that our art can be used as an 
expression of opinion and has been historically.  You will get my year of 
the sheep/goat card in April.
Love to all
Marilynn smith




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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:03:12 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21040] Re: political art 


Carolyn writes:
"If an artist's work is political and that is their oeuvre, should they 
censor themselves so that they don't offend anyone on the list?  What is 
the reason for art?"

Carolyn, that's a nice question to discuss..."what is the reason  for art 
?" It could  fill a book ! I do it cause it pleases me and it fullfills a 
certain inner desire to make a statement. I would never censor my work 
regardless of consequences.

Speaking as a member, IMO, the list is only sensitive to  prolonged 
discussions on politics & religious issues. Specially statements that 
preach a certain position over others. Because we are a world-wide 
community we must all be tolerant of the views of others and remember that 
the purpose of the list is to discuss and promote woodblock printmaking 
and whenever possible stay within that content. 

There is no censorship on this list regarding art or subject 
matter.....there is no censorship to posting. Please read the guidelines 
for appropriate posting on the Baren website. Language in postings that 
have obscene content, threatening in nature or otherwise clearly violate 
the posting guidelines will be handled by our moderator off-list (Wanda 
Robertson).  Warnings may be given but as many of you know that have had 
the unfortunate experience to read many unappropriate postings by some of 
our members.....the forum is very forgiving when handling such departures. 


thanks...Julio Rodriguez 

 

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From: LEAFRUTH#aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:17:03 EST
Subject: [Baren 21041] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2161 

Barbara I sent a check to the address you emailed me and I'm not on the list. 
 Was the check lost?  Ruth

http://www.ruthleaf.com

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From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" <patricia_phare-camp#hp.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:45:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21042] RE: Baren Digest V22 #2161 

"in climbing the mountain of my life as your ram appears, I am determined to
carry on to the top" -Gillyin

You hit that nail square on the head Mizz Gillyin!  Except for one thing...a
few years ago I determined that if my art is not funny then it
sucks...soooo, what our tenacious ram cannot see is just beyond that ridge
is an even higher ridge and beyond that another-higher-and...which isn't
that the way life is? just as you surmount the first obstacle you find it
only obscured an even bigger one.  But thank God we tenacious humans apes
are blessed with challenges so that we may continue to evolve as human
beings! ;-D  Thank you for your encouraging words, it's always nice when
someone "gets" what you are trying to say in your art!  Patti P-C

"and many more I can' think of" -Ruth

William Blake!

Happy carving,
Patti P-C


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:24:52 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21043] Re: Calendar-2004 Postcard Update


Calendar-2004  POSTCARD Update ( please print and keep for reference)

Thanks to those signing up. Consider the work period underway. 

Currently fifteen have signup but a few more have indicated
interest in participating in this format. The more people that
sign for this format the smaller the print run required will be
per participant to reach our goal of 100 calendars. Due to it's
informal nature, signup (for this format only) will remain open 
until further notice or until colophon info is needed. You will
send your 4X6" postcard-sized prints to the coordinator (see
address below) and after all prints are received we will assemble
and ship the calendars. Please note that the last day for the
prints to arrive is September 15, 2003.  Calendar delivery
anticipated for November 1st, 2003. 


The Postcard calendar will have no theme, it will be "Open". Feel
free to explore your preferred subject(s) & season. Orientation
can be either horizontal or vertical.  Please do not send in
oversized prints as they won't fit the pre-printed months and
will have to be trimmed or returned at your expense. Stick to the
4X6" paper size or as close as possible. Avoid extremely heavy
papers. You can send in batches of different prints if you like
as calendars will have a balanced mix. Month or season
preferences will be honored based on signup order. A colophon
info page will be made available for you to enter print/artist
information. I will send monthly reminders to everyone in this
group. 

You will receive a free Postcard Calendar in return for your 
contributions. Remaining calendars will be sold thru the Barenmall with 
funds going to cover operating costs for barenforum.org. Any prints unsold 
will be returned to the artists.

While the minimum number of prints to send is 35, ideally we
would like to make close to 100 calendars (that's 1200 prints
total !). To reach that goal we can either get more people to
signup or we can each send in more than 35 prints.  If we endup
with 24 participants it comes to about 50 prints per.


Address to ship the Postcard calendar prints: 

Julio Rodriguez
3801 Dobson
Skokie, Illinois
USA, 60076


Additional info from the website: http://barenforum.org/calendar/

"For the Postcard-calendar, participants will send in small-sized (4X6") 
prints which will be attached to a pre-printed calendar form (approx. 7 X 
7"). The calendar pages will be printed on quality stock and be loose (not 
bound). The calendar will come with an upright stand for table or desktop 
display. Prints will vary from calendar to calendar. Edition size is left 
up to participant (minimum 35 prints). Participants in this format will 
receive back only one of this type of calendar."

Any questions can be posted to calendar#barenforum.org or to the general 
list.

thanks.....Julio Rodriguez




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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:08:09 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21044] 


Is there anyone in the baren group who lives in Philadelphia and might be 
able to take responsibility for framing a print for me to be delivered to 
the Print Center?  I will pre-pay all the costs.

The print was supposed to be there 3 days ago, but because of a mix-up at 
the Print Center I didn't learn about it until today and there's now some 
question as to whether I will be able to get it there in time--because not 
only will have to get it framed but I will have to have a container/crate 
made to send it in, since it's a fair sized print.

Thanks,

Myron






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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:15:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 21045] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2161 


No, I have the check. I am just behind in bookwork...rats. But by
the end of the week I will be up to date, I am really working at
my desk all week! Well, maybe a little tiny trip to the
studio....... Barbara


>LEAFRUTH#aol.com wrote:Barbara I sent a check to the address you
>emailed me and I'm not on the list. Was the check lost? Ruth

>http://www.ruthleaf.com

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